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I Found A 1613 Polish Guide To Surviving A Plague And It's Terrible
Pubblicato il 24 mar 2021
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Karolina Żebrowska
ok but why do English Karolina and Polish Karolina sound like two different people 👁👄👁
Robyn Alice
Ik this isn't related to the comment, but I think "perfumed apple" means something along the lines of a Pomander ball, since they were sometimes used for plagues as well
Buka
.tez mnie to zastanawia dlaczego Twój głos zmienia się ze zmiana języka
Billy T
i think it’s the vowel sounds maybe. they are a lot narrower in english and it kinda makes you have to speak in the front of your mouth a lot more. i’m not a speech expert but that’s just what i’m hearing.
midnight tea
Ha, to jest czar wielojęzyczności :) Ciekawe psychologiczne i neurologiczne rzeczy zachodzą przy mówieniu innym językiem, super-ciekawa sprawa. (btw. mówienie więcej niż jednym językiem jest bardzo... zdrowe!)
Raeleigh P
A perfumed apple can sometimes be referring to a ball of ambergris(substance from the intestines of a sperm whale).
Beecartes my honey
The "quickly move, don't return too quickly" etc part sound like advices from Harry Potter. 0_0
Yessica Gomez
The first word you couldn't translate was CARBUNCLE. We don't really use it in English these days.
car•bun•cle (kär′bŭng″kəl)
n. A painful localized bacterial infection of the skin and subcutaneous tissue that usually has several openings through which pus is discharged.
Ruel Pondeglow
A heavy headache? Huh. Didn't know I had the plague.
Mury Bury
6:29 is such a good insult. Imagine someone walks up to you and says “You look like you have the plague.” Like, how do you react to that?!
Reilly G2
It’s so beautiful! I love it so much! You are a magical sewing superhero! How do you do it?!
farhan rahmaddani
I bet the guy wrote the book wasn't expecting that a woman will read his book while people around the world listen to the woman
Lucical Art
Ok but that blouse is actually awesome, you did a really good job!
Vivian M
Where do you get your patterns?
Sky Richarde
The doctor is speaking in terms of Humoral medicine, when he talks about bad "humidities" this would translate to the concept of "bad humours", at this time the humoral system was all over Europe (having come from Middle Eastern translations of Greek medicine), one had either too much Blood, Black Bile, Yellow Bile, or Phlegm, and would go to the doctor to have these various humours purged. Blood would be purged with blood letting, black bile with laxatives, yellow bile with vomiting, and phlegm with cough stimulants. Most people were good at determining what their "complexion/constitution" was, similar to how most people know their zodiac sign these days.
Hannah Kat
sebastian is giving me strong astrology girl energy. in 2020 he would be tweeting about how pisces are immune to covid
Mysza Myszokrwista
czyli po każdym polskim fragmenciku musze przeczekać angielski i słuchać tego samego XD
אסתר מרגוליס
as soon as you started talking about that apple, I was pretty sure he means "pomander" which does come from the word apple and was used in just this way!
Fonzie Bulldog
In the middle ages when the plague rampaged the world they used to lock people into their homes if they thought they had the disease and if they didnt get any food they instead starved to death and when nobody answered after some weeks they was sure it was the plague and burned the house down. 😳
Eugenia Snyder
Okay, I so want to learn Polish and recreate that blouse!
Katherine S
"....rose water... OH! Rose VODKA!" Little bit of a difference there... :)
AspenZero
This is why you have to discipline your kids rather harshly-
If they get to be too happy, they'll SUFFOCATE
AspenZero
1613 Physician: "Another thing that is necessary for people to live- sleeping and being awake."
Modern People Who Have Survive Years And Years Of A Coma: * Slides right on in *
1613 Physician: -_-
H M
Love this
Kvart Lapp
You should ask Taste History to make perfumed apple! He would probably find out what it is!
AspenZero
Me: * Watching this video over the course of a few hours due to some EXTREMELY serious things going on *
Also me every time I check out the video every hour or so so conveniently immediately as she starts reading every single time: What am I hearing-
Iv R
Random but anyways what does 'dom' mean in polish?
Karolina Żebrowska
it’s a house!
Iv R
It has so many different translations between languages and I was just curious lol
Theturtleowl
Those four types of bodies are from a medical theory from the ancient Greece, the four humors. It did not help people at all. It was the basis for using leeches for everything.
mahutosman tadsıt
Diz guy loogz like he haz a plag🤣🤣🤣
Shining Leaf
Beautiful blouse 😍👌💞
Wojciech Palczewski
Pani Karolino niech Pani zaprezentuje [jako świetna aktorka] zagranicznym dziwakom [z czeskiego - widzom] dzieło X. Chmielewskiego, choćby ten fragment o jodze: JOGA - człowiek, co sztukę zwaną jogą uprawia.
Wielce ci on lubi źwierza wszelkiego małpować. Jak krowę widzi, to tak se nogi zaplecie, że krowi pysk udaje, a w on czas krowę, co stoi w wielkim osłupieniu, łatwiej mu wydoić. Pojadają Jogi jedynie korzonków, bulw, olpuchów, a bobu lubią wielce. Jak taka Joga poje, a czuje, że go wzdymie, to on u dołu zawrze, a gazu nie puści, wdech tęgi powietrza zrobi, a gardło zatka językiem, niby korkiem. Jak gaz z dołu i powietrze z góry się spotkają, to Joga pęcznieje i lekko z ziemi się unosi, a jak wiatru dostanie, to się i przemieszcza. Lewitacyją to się zowie. Joga dziwa robi. Ale ludzie dobre są, a jak ukontentowani w kupie się zbiorą, to buczą cicho jak pszczółki. A miłe ci to dla ucha, jeno miodu z tego ni ma.
Ks. Benedykt Chmielowski
Nowe Ateny albo Akademia wszelkiey scyencyi pełna, na różne tytuły, iák ná classes podzielona, mądrym dla memoryału, idiotom dla náuki, politykom dla práktyki, melancholikom dla rozrywki erigowana
Wielu Pani komentatorów podoba się brzmienie języka polskiego [Pani] więc "prosiemy"
Wojciech Palczewski
Chmielowski a nie Chmielewski
Tani
Wow polish lang did not change for so long? If I try to read anything in ukrainian from the same period I'll understand maybe a few words lol.
Also, if you have anything, just slap podroznik leaves on it and you are cured.
Barry Humphreys
In the uk one of the letters of advice was to not have a bath
Maria VG
You look like my math teacher 😂
Porn HUB
I think I'm in luv
Daniel Chmarzyński
Wet people, powiadacie, Duszko...
Julia Howe
I think on the "hot" "cold" "wet" "dry" people concept, doctors were noticing that illnesses could be transmitted through fluids. So in actuality, we can transmit disease through speaking to each other, because our saliva particles get in the air. I bet doctors then also assumed disease could go in sweat and other fluids as well. So a "dry" person (someone who didn't spit or sweat a lot) was preferable to a "wet" person, who allowed more airborne diseases to get into communal air. As for "hot" and "cold," obviously people with fevers were ill, and so should be avoided; people will excessive chills also were likely ill. Doctors were pretty close to the truth on this!
Comment Bot
Random idea: 1980S girl whos a fan of futuristic technology goes into the future and is disappointed
Buzia
I'm polish but i was still focused on the subtitles🤓
Billy T
idk how to turn on subtitles on mobile so i’m just enjoying listening to karolina speak polish.
kashii chan
Once you start playing the video, at the top on the right there should be a couple of icons. The one you want is a box with CC inside it (for "closed captions").
000 111
All plagues aside, that is a stellar blouse
Oxy Bright Dark
Can someone subtitle the English part too? I can’t watch without subtitles and I can only understand her polish.
MultiCappie
Until the First World War, Western medicine almost certainly killed more people than it saved.
Trinidad Fei Feng Mercado Chung
Nice blouse! (I love your videos)😊
Reicha
If you twist it just a little bit, this is some sound advise. Or. At least their observations weren't totally wrong.
I came up with some explanations. This isn't meant to make it seem like "this was totally obvious and you're stupid", or like I'm arguing that this 1600's doc was a genius - or anything similarly douchey! This is just what my medicine-nerdy brain spat out upon hearing this! :D Just for fun!
The air thing isn't completely ludicrous - look at the tests for aerosol virus spread now.
Masks to not breathe in or cough out the virus.
Then he gets crazy with it, like with all of it. xD
Bad smell meaning bad things is very basic, we think bacterial growth and fungal growth and rot smells bad cause it's bad for us. Of course then, they'd think good smells made it better. But also! Not entirely uncorrect!
Lemons? Antibacterial, good for cleaning.
Some spices are fungicides. Kills mold.
Some herbs and oils keep away different insects and pests - like fleas!
If you find a spice that fleas hate and douse yourself, and your house, in it - might help a bit.
*The cool and dry thing*
If you keep your house _cool and dry_ you're less likely to have your food rot, mold and in other ways spoil and bring down your immune functions when you eat it. That's likely why he says to cook it, you kill bacteria.
Your wooden walls won't have active mold spewing immune-suppressing spores, like hot and humid air will trigger.
Bacteria won't thrive in the environment as well as it does in a moist, warm place.
The same goes for your bed, which if left moist and warm will trigger these things and also cause more mites. If you're allergic to mites, you're then irritating your skin and airways - which opens them up to infection.
Also several viruses like cold and the flu spread better in the winter, when it's warm and moist inside! And we actually, as he said, as humans cannot know why. Okay, so, we _can_ we just don't, yet. xD (Even if we have loads of research and theories!) That brings it back around to his bad air spiel a bit, as well.
If you keep _yourself_ cool and dry then you're less likely to have fungi and bacteria grow on your skin. After all, they maybe couldn't bathe often or didn't have very effective soaps in that day.
Jock itch is a good example of what that might lead to - then you scratch it and let other bacteria and crap into your body.
The crops becoming sick with plague? Well, no. But fungi and, I think, bacteria can grow in rye - and would cause disease outbreaks in human settlements throughout history.
There is a theory that one type of hallucinogenic and seizure-triggering fungal toxin caused this in Salem, and created the witch kerfuffel.
*The way the windows faced*
Well a commenter mentioned south facing windows get more sun, that made me realise:
If you're inside doing housework that might cause you to shut the wooden flaps (I think the poor didn't use to afford glass, it was just holes?) to avoid sun glare. That would cause moisture to build up, and trap heat inside.
Why am I mentioning fungi and bacterial growth in the home and on the body, when the plague was a virus?
If you're sick with the plague then a secondary infection by bacteria and/or fungi is _definitely_ going to take you out!
You're also more likely to catch the plague, instead of it never taking hold, if your immune-system is busy fighting against fungi and bacteria! ^^
*Happiness causing you to suffocate*
This was probably the old "died laughing". Some research suggests, suffocating from laughing too hard and long _is_ possible!
You can also have a heart attack or stroke if you're predisposed, and laugh to hard. Goes for all the "don't be overly emotional" stuff.
It can strain you and trigger underlying health conditions that they had no way of being aware of or understanding back in the day. Heck, even today we sometimes have sudden deaths from heart-disease that went symptomless until then.
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Those are some of my theories on the actual reasons some of his advice may have actually worked for people, and made it into medical texts like his! ^w^ Also into silly theories about being wet and moist because of your food... Like sure, dude, some things make you sweat more but wat...
Considering, the docs in the day weren't doing _too_ awfully! :D
...Except, uh, when they *did*
Oh yeah - the "we don't know - try stuff and find out yourself"? That's what doctors straight up tell you today if you have allergies. ;w;
"Well, uh, stop eating stuff - if it works it works!"
"Thanks mr. 1600s pamphlet. =n="
"What?"
"What? 0.0;"
lovely daria
i’m polish and i could NOT read this text because of the font. wow.
Molly White
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E anche i prototipi interattivi saranno combinati in interi cluster della loro stessa specie. Essendo solo una parte del quadro generale, le conclusioni tratte sulla base dell'analisi di Internet ci richiedono nuovi risultati, che, a loro volta, dovrebbero essere descritti nel modo piu dettagliato possibile.💋
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Ava
the rules for not getting sick: 1. don't sleep 2. hold herb 3. bdsm????? damn, plague doctors were just kinna freaky i guess 😳😳😳
Wolfie 101
He was honestly on to something when he was talking about cold and dry. Bacteria such as the plague would have bred at a much faster rate in a warm and humid environment
Today's Knit
Something I find interesting is that "cold and dry" is... one of the ways we stop bacterial growth? Freezing, refridgerators -- the goal is less water and more chill. So maybe they'd noticed that there were fewer instances of plague in winter, perhaps, when the bacteria would go somewhat dormant in the cold.
MultiCappie
It's heart wrenching to think the people at this time had nothing better to help them than poorly understood 2,000 year-old Classical Greek observations, snake oil, and useless home remedies.
The Great Dream
Feng shui intensifies lol.
Welp SendHelp
Im not a doctor but I do notice those "ulcers and bumps" he talks about corresponds to very specific lymph nodes in the body which actually *do* swell when you have an infection. It's really cool how they thought of this in 1613 since any understanding of the lymphatic system was pretty fuzzy at this time and was mostly studied in animals like dogs.
Welp SendHelp
*the guy he dedicated this to died a year later*
,,,,,,,uhm,,,,,,
MatJan86
We are in reality THE WEAKEST of all humans in history.
Nowadays people can't handle criticism let alone something more serious like a real plague(not what we have today that is blown out of proportion).
Not to mention we ingest, inject, spray and what not so many harmful artificial substances into and onto our self it's astonishing.
Hell we are even more detached from our instincts.
In a way majority of advice is quite sensible for 1613 and would be a good advice for today. Especially mental health and spiritual health. good food is important too.
Lyn
Thank you for making this and the subtitles. It must have taken you a long time. Thank you
Lyn
9:43 This makes a lot of sense why in the newer Disney live-action Beauty and the Beast movie (yes I am references a fictional disney thing) has Bell's dad (spoiler) leave their old home during the plague and never return. I wonder if that was a phenomenon that was well known about the plague or if the movie makers did some research.
Also related to the joy and suffocation part 22:15 : I have anxieties and when I get to excited I hold my breath and overexert myself. You would think that just things like breathing are instinctively correct, buuuut not for me.
Sophia Museologist
Historical breakdowns are part of the trade
Ramsés ...
We laugh about many of this writings but people back then actually paid attetion to their bodies. As it was clear by the book, people didn't exactly know how things worked, but they could see the reactions to every treatment, enviroment and food. The fact that he mention through all the book that wet and warm was a bad thing, is remarkble, since that is exactly the kind of environment that the plague would thrive in.
Yen C.
I wonder if these texts were an inspiration for the game "Pathologic"? There was clouds of plague air in the game 🤔
Rebecca Harvey
This makes me wish I learned a second language fluently in school
A Billion Bears and me
I love the way she describing what's he saying. It's amazing.
Link
I liked just for the blouse.
Hobi's Tiny Heart Bag
10:21 OMG he is talking about The Shakespeare’s Humors which is inherited from the ancient Greek philosophy that’s so insane! I heard about that on philosophy class and it makes sense but there was people living based on it in 1600’s is insane!
There is a whole chart about the blood types and stuff It’s basically something like there is 4 types of people
Melancholic - Winter
Phlegmatic - Autumn
Choleric - Summer
Sanguine - Spring
It’s like zodiac but not really like a personality test but not really it’s all about how your biological being and what you do with it effects on you physically and mentally if you think about it but the nature of a person effects everything they feel and do, which makes total sense because genes DNA hello, if you live like the way your body type should you’ll be healthier but if you don’t you screwed my dude THAT’S INSANE!!
EDIT: NEVERMIND IT WAS BAD! It’s a cool concept if you think about it like zodiac but it was so bad and many many people have died because of the lack of understanding of medical care... I feel bad ;-;
Hobi's Tiny Heart Bag
This video gives me PTSD from 3 years ago when I was taking Polish classes in Poland but at the same time BISH I STILL CAN READ IT!! 😎🔥
Abbey Simmons
#PrayThePlagueAway
KatieArtist 94
This was really fascinating! Thanks for sharing!
Angel Art ^^
Jestem Polką a staropolski rozumiem mniej niż objaśnienia po Angielsku
RamblerClassicMan
Out of curiosity was the “Armenian soil” a dog whistle or euphemism?
June Passingthroughthegate
Most of those tips were aimed at people at the higher classes.
Glass Spires
Is it possible that "petocie" is petechiae? Small pinpoint areas of bleeding/bruising under the skin could fit with the plague. Also, karbunkuły is "carbuncle" in English--a collection of boils connected under the skin.
Elyse Thompson
Please find more excuses to do videos in Polish.
Basia Morris-Bruton
I get the feeling by "humid person" he means "sweaty person".
cheekychappy1234
@4:36 "Karbunkuly" are Carbuncles in English which are infected boils that have joined up.
Leftover Lemons
One thing of note for preserving food: there was a thing called the “ice trade” that was quite profitable before refrigeration. It was a way to keep things cold (and therefore fresher). Ice would be taken from rivers and lakes in colder locations, packed with hay and sawdust as a way to keep the cold in, and transported to other locations.
Tronci S
Me asking my mom a question:
My mom who just woke up: 1:51
Aubrey
"There's four different type of people. By skin type."
Oohhhh... Like high school!😳
20Grosh
Tak jak słucham to co pan Ignacy Petrycy Medyk pisał o ciałach mokrych (😏) suchych itp. to bardzo mi to przypomina opisy temperamentów. Choleryk byłby więc gorący, flegmatyk mokry no bo flegma, melancholik zimny a sangwinik suchy? I guess?
Human Person
That's such a lovely blouse! Did you really make it yourself?
Human Person
@Karolina Żebrowska Dude, that's amazing! You did a great job 💐✨
Karolina Żebrowska
yes! the soutache did take a while though 😬
Maria Adamek
Film robi się jeszcze lepszy jeśli jesteś z Krakowa. W zasadzie Polska wystarczy
Ibtesam Sorab
This MIASMA THEORY is way more scarier than I thought...
Akimitsu
I think that "Pontius King" he mentions might be King Mithridates VI of Pontus who was famous for eating so much poison he became immune to poison?
Hope Fae
all this “complexion” business is related to the four humors. humid and dry are one axis and hot and cold are another axis. in order from dry to humid, melancholic (too much “black bile”) and phlegmatic (too much phlegm) are cold, and choleric (too much “yellow bile”) and sanguine (too much blood) are warm. being well balanced in all four liquids meant you were properly healthy, so obviously you would want to keep that balance.
anyway that’s where the practice of bloodletting comes from, having too much blood made you overactive among other things
you would know if someone was too much of one thing or another based on their personality and symptoms.
genericfirstname
If you make this kind of video again, I'd love quick summaries in English text- not actual translations. Saying that, this was fun!
ImmortalChaos
Heresy, to survive plague just hang more herbs.
Denny Gorbzalas
so when the plague hit it’s literally weird the doctors tell people to live in a sewer because they think that will cure you
Telari
The part about people being "dry, wet, cold, or hot" is tied to the ancient theory of "four humours", and that an imbalance of those can cause sickness - there's a really good episode of Sawbones podcast on this in case you'd like to know more.
kashii chan
Sawbones have some truly fascinating episodes and should definitely have more listeners.
Caroline Kopack
This is off-topic but your voice when you speak Polish is so calming
nana
“so, either they do have a fever, or they don't have a fever, and that's a symptom as well, so that is very confusing”
same, karolina, same
purpletygertube
Loved this. Thank you for sharing this book!
69Kokoro
I'm thinking about the complexion of the people and maybe they mean: Hot and Cold people are the usual temperature of the body (Cold would be someone who usually has cold hands or body parts, cold to the touch and the opposite with hot people) and Wet and Dry could be how much they sweat (Like Wet could be people who sweat a lot as you could literally see water drops in their body and dry people are the ones who you could barely see their sweat) and Moderate people are the ones who can adapt like in winter they could have cold hands but suddenly they get warm because their body functions well and they don't sweat much but when they do you could kind of see it
Aleksandra Skrzynecka
My skin is dry, my jokes are dry and my wine is dry! I consider myself safe now ;)
Cr Hu
The blouse is great retro 40s. Even authentic costume 40s? Hair matches perfectly. You are clearly a movie star from then who hid in a cryo chamber until recently.
Cr Hu
European medicine was literally crap. Ask why graduating students to this day wear a fez like cap. It's to honour Muslims and the first universities. Who had the only good doctors until 19th century at least.
Ines Gorbaszewicz vel Gabrylewicz
People from Poland be like😄
Ludzie z Polski sa jak😄
Emma Hardwick
How did I live in Krakow for 3 years and never once run into you.....absolutely tragic
BlueberryDragon13
How do you get your hair so curly and still shiny?
No Idea
Mkay, but Karolina reading in polish is like... The best asmr
Laura
So apparently Lemons were already grown in italy and spain by that time and were introduced to europe by the arabs in spain and pomegrante is origninally from iran but was known since the middle ages through trade with the middle east
Green4CloveR
Scientific information and methods in early centuries was repressed by the church.
zaker721
Well, I can see why they would want you to get away from where the plague was. The nature of cities then was that they were congested and lots of people lived cheek by jowl, and animals and weird, creepy bodily fluids...ewww. If they used public facilities that made it all the worse. Running away to a place with fewer people gave you a better chance of not coming across others with the illness. Public markets would be far more dangerous than a farm or garden at home. Given the time period, he was probably writing with people who lived in the cities in mind, or scholars---those who lived communally with others, as I'm guessing literacy wasn't that common among the rural people back then? It's all very interesting.
ann eliasson
Thank God that C19 isn´t the plague! Even if we act like "she" is.
blue
dear god this reminded me so much of when i was in poland. im a native russian speaker, and my brain kept telling me i should be able to understand what people are saying because the sounds are almost identical, but i could not understand a word
UPDATE: WAIT I UNDERSTOOD LIKE THE FIRST TWO SENTENCES OF THE INSTRUCTION @ 3:13
drivethrupoet
those are the Ayurveda Doshas
Eric Zaksauskas
Bestie I am Polish-American and you make me so happy I speak Polish